Crusing again

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:26:48 GMT

Well, I do occasionally fly airlines in developing nations... However, I agree that some are less reputable than others. I guess pilot error seems a big thing, I suppose I must learn to trust them more.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:26:45 GMT

Regarding weather.

Several other planes flew the same route as Air France the same night, just a few minutes ahead of behind Air France, and had no trouble with the weather.

The Buffalo accident had nothing to do with weather. The weather issue was the media making up b.s.

The other accident involved an airline the E.U. considered highly questionable. It may have been weather-related in the sense that the pilot may not have been competent, or not used proper...

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (OneAnt) — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:13:41 GMT

Occurring during less-than-fair weather does not mean that weather was, in any way, a factor.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:58:35 GMT

Air France, Air Yemenia, and the one near Buffalo.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (OneAnt) — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:01:18 GMT

Which ones are you referring to when you say "all" because you certainly can't actually mean ALL of them.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:04:43 GMT

Alas, I cant help but wonder why all the bad crashes this year were in bad weather.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (OneAnt) — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:42:10 GMT

Personally, I think you're going about this the wrong way, Gregnewing. Your goal should be to learn to put your trust in the hands of the experts (the flight deck crew) and stop worrying about these things yourself. If you're unable to do that now, then SOAR will help you accomplish this.

Fact is, your kind of questions only lead to more questions, and more questions, and more questions. Even if all your questions are answered, you'll still come up with another that...

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:01:01 GMT

But, isnt the cold or lightining related to crashes at all... I usually just reassure myself that if the weather is fair then a crash is unlikely... I guess I just need to educate myself more on this topic.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:34:18 GMT

None. I can't recall a crash in which weather at cruise altitude was the cause. I think the real reason for fear of turbulence is that it makes it hard to keep the fact that you are flying out of mind. When smooth, you can think of other things. But turbulence intrudes.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:26:43 GMT

I cannot thank you enough, you have been very helpful (I've been in flying around the Middle East, about to enter my 6th flight). I have one more question concerning weather: How much of a role does weather play in plane crashes during cruising? I mean, weather is one thing that actually has never bothered me during flying (probably because I usually fly in very fair weather anyway), but what bothers me seems to be the fair weather... Its odd, but no turbulence seems to be "too good...

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:07:54 GMT

I read the entire interim report. The autopilot kicked off, but that is nothing - at least - nothing in itself. Why did it do that? Looks like some sensors or computers receiving info from sensors caused it to kick off. That's about all that is known other than that it didn't go into the water in a dive, but hit the water belly first, and did not come apart in the air. Very strange situation. I have some ideas, but they are not supported well enough to get people involved in more...

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:04:13 GMT

I hear autopilot can be a cause. Is this true? (autopilot malfunctions)

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:05:25 GMT

During cruise it can be any one thing. Has to be something very unusual.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:01:32 GMT

Thanks, that was a very interesting article. I agree that a fear of flying is pretty irrational, yet I cant help but wonder what would cause the 5% of cruising crashes.

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:28:54 GMT

Take a look at the research done by Sivak and Flannagan to compare the risks of flying versus driving. This research was done because it appeared that thousands of people died AFTER 9/11 because of switching from flying to driving.

But to go to your point, in their research, they took the view that so few accidents happen during cruise that they decided to simplify their research and ignore such crashes. They are, indeed, few.

See the research at

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:58:17 GMT

I agree with this, and do have a vivid imagination. Are you referring to the Air France flight though? If so yes I agree that was a fluke, and I'm (only) guessing it was caused by weather, which I'm really not worried about encountering in the area of which I am flying (Istanbul-Amaan). However, other than weather or other than that air france flight crash has there been other instances which a plane has fatally crashed during crusing (As that is ... oddly... the only bit of...

Re: Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:58:52 GMT

Because there are so many safety systems, it becomes difficult to come up with anything that could cause a crash. Imagination doesn't take that fact into consideration, and becomes - itself - a problem.

Flying is as safe now as it was a month ago. If you persist in imagination about what went wrong, you only set yourself up.

Crusing again

feeds@yuku.com (Gregnewing) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:19:00 GMT

Hello,

though i posted earlier about crusing..... I am wondering what has caused any flights to crash during crusing, what could the possible causes be and what would a survival chance be? Any help would be welcomed.